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zomer
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| victorian t guage wrote: | | Im working on a flatt top t class deisel at the moment, i cant wait to show u! the body is done, just needs folding and glueing. it features, 3d hood doors with top & bootom locks, generator vents, radiator grills, & see thru cab windows. & will have end platform handrails. ill get a photo up asap. |
OK Paul thats teasing!!!  Telling us and not providing a pic, leaving us hanging!! I will hopefully pop by your work and ill take some pics to add to blog and forum.
For pics and info of the T class diesel Paul is referring to:
http://www.victorianrailways.net/motive%20power/t320_346.html
I cant wait to see how you do the handrails!!!
ZomeR
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B 67
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Location: Stratford, Australia
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| Posted: Mon Dec 01, 2008 12:11 pm Post subject: |
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| zomer wrote: | | victorian t guage wrote: | | Im working on a flatt top t class deisel at the moment, i cant wait to show u! the body is done, just needs folding and glueing. it features, 3d hood doors with top & bootom locks, generator vents, radiator grills, & see thru cab windows. & will have end platform handrails. ill get a photo up asap. |
OK Paul thats teasing!!! Telling us and not providing a pic, leaving us hanging!! I will hopefully pop by your work and ill take some pics to add to blog and forum. |
If anyone else did that, we'd probably not believe that he really WAS working on such a tiny diesel. But I have no doubts in this case.
And I can't wait to see the working lighted number boards - with legible numbers of course. 
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zomer
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B 67
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| Posted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:00 am Post subject: |
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If Paul does a B class, you can be sure it will be in the original colours.
Here's B 75 in Morwell in the late 80s.
and B 65 near Warragul.
I'm sure I've got Adrian drooling now.
And here's B 67 - or some of it. Presently awaiting restoration in my backyard. 
Sorry, I got a bit carried away. It's hard not to with these locos.
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Chris333
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Darren,
That paint job reminds me of the Erie Railroad. Here is a 1949 set of F3's stopping in my town.
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zomer
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Funny you posted this, I was just talking to Paul today about working on a B class. As Darren and Paul would know I too have a special spot in my heart for this locomotive.
As Paul mentioned he is working on his T class, well I saw it this evening!!! OMG!!! Amazing!!!!! Hopefully pics up tomorrow.
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B 67
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| Chris333 wrote: | Darren,
That paint job reminds me of the Erie Railroad. Here is a 1949 set of F3's stopping in my town.
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It is true that the Victorian Railways based the design of the colour scheme for the B class on the Erie RR design. The result was much better than the steam era design they originally came up with. See zomer's avatar and imagine that on the front, in yellow, with the rest of the locomotive in blue apart from some thin yellow pinstriping.
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Chris333
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Erie used black, but in many photos it shows up looking blue (due to the reflection of the sky). Erie even used blue in some of their advertising.
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Toni Babelony
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Pure black paint can't almost be obtained at a low price, so very very dark blue is somewhat the standard with paintings. Hence the blue reflections. I could be wrong though...
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victorian t gauge
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| i ended up putting on handrails, exhaust, and a bit of white paint on it. this 1st t wont be the end product, more of a test to see hoe it all goes together. i will make a few small changes to the next one ill use, but WOW!!, its small!! pretty cute really! we will try to get some pics up today of it. |
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TBA
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Interestingly many US railroad paint schemes are similar to each other. As I understand, the art department of the locomotive builder EMD drew up some standard paint schemes and motifs for the railroads to choose from...the way the stripes curve and such. Various railroad magazines have run articles showing various airbrushed paint scheme proposals for EMD F- and E-units and such.
So I wondered if the paint scheme for the Autralian loco was proposed by the loco builder?
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B 67
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| TBA wrote: | Interestingly many US railroad paint schemes are similar to each other. As I understand, the art department of the locomotive builder EMD drew up some standard paint schemes and motifs for the railroads to choose from...the way the stripes curve and such. Various railroad magazines have run articles showing various airbrushed paint scheme proposals for EMD F- and E-units and such.
So I wondered if the paint scheme for the Autralian loco was proposed by the loco builder? |
Sort of. The B's were built locally, under licence from EMD. What happened was that the VR actually wanted the new diesels to appear in the same livery as their prestige Spirit of Progress streamlined steam-hauled air-con train. They had assumed the locos would be instantly accepted by being presented in the same style paint scheme. However, others disagreed. At the time when various artwork proposals were being made, one of the VR's top men was actually at EMD, and had been collecting examples of US liveries for possible adaption back home. Apparently it was decided to adapt the Rio Grande and Erie designs to the VR blue and gold. The Erie version being the one finally selected.
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Chris333
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Erie's first F units came with a slightly different paint job:
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/erie700.jpg
It was just the first order of FTs, they didn't last long like that and soon more yellow was added to the nose area. |
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RogerP
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| Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 10:45 pm Post subject: T Gauge in Oz |
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Hello to all,
I too live in country Victoria, Bendigo to be precise and I see exciting possibilities for modelling utilising existing card models.
LJ models produces a lovely range of Aussie style buildings as most of possibly already know. At some stage very soon I am going to 'tinker' with the Victorian station building based on Bright I think (V22). My youngest son has some of my LJ collection so I need to check out what he has. I also have some 'SuperQuick' buildings which could prove interesting.
My HUGE suggestion re card models is DON'T use the original kit, but photocopy it. That way if you muck it up, it's very easy to replace parts.
My idea will be to photocopy the HO down to N scale (54%) then go again by 35% to 1:450. I'm sure it's going to be quite small, but an interesting challenge nevertheless. Why do it twice you may ask? Past experience in enlarging 250 scale coastal forces models up to 72nd scale in one hit showed too much distortion, so I found it's better to go in logical steps. For the boats I go from 250 to 144th (the main scale I'm doing these in), then to 72nd scale and in some cases up to 35th scale.
I have aleady resized a WW2 RAN Fairmile Patrol Boat down to 450 and so far it looks good, all 76mm of it. When I have progressed further I will certainly post pics here and on Adrian (Zomer's) blog.
Almost forgot -- Darren, Adrian & Paul -- do ANY of you plan to have a T Gauge pressence at either (or both) Sandown or Collingwood exhibitions?
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