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charliemeinershagen
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 Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:57 am Post subject: G within a G |
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T-gaugers and G-scalers,
When you do the numbers, the T-gauge fits rather nicely onto a garden scale layout as a backyard "G within a G"
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DJdeTrainman
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You know, I had a very similar idea myself, before I saw that Eishindo was debuting it's 1/32 set. After some quick math, I decided that 1:450 to 1:22.5 would be 1/20, or about a G-G  . As far as I'm concerned, that is pretty close according to T standards.
So yes, I think it is a brilliant idea... 
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TBA
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| Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 6:13 am Post subject: |
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I'd love to see someone replicate recognizable LGB locomotives and rolling stock to run on T track, along with sharp-radius curves. 
Funny thing though...you can figure differently and arrive at 1:15 as the "model within a model" scale.
G/#1 gauge (45mm) divided by T gauge (3mm average) = 15
OK, call it 1:16 for easier modeling. 
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David K Smith
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TBA
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Imagine what they could have done with this diorama today with T instead of Z...
Funny you should say that. I don't recall seeing this photo before on the Eishindo site, but it must've been there a while...
(From the page: http://www.kk-eishindo.co.jp/e-doitsu2008toy.html)
Figures are 1:6 scale dolls. Add a GI Joe/Barbie to the list of objects to pose T-Scale trains with to bring home the size. 
I may have mentioned it elsewhere here before, but a 1:5 or 1:6 scale operating replica of John Allen's Gorre and Daphetid* would be fun...once steam locos and switches are available in T.
Modules have been discussed...how about modules built to scale standards representing HO O or G guages respectively? In other words the module length and width and leg length would be proportional to each scale represented. You could set the connected modules up on a table for exhibition...along with appropriately scaled spectators standing about.
Once I do get a set I do want to explore the "model of a model" concept.
Somehow I can see this type of thing being popular with T.
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*Legendary HO scale model RR, for those not familiar with the name.
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rmyers
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| TBA wrote: | Funny you should say that. I don't recall seeing this photo before on the Eishindo site, but it must've been there a while...
Figures are 1:6 scale dolls. Add a GI Joe/Barbie to the list of objects to pose T-Scale trains with to bring home the size.
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Never saw the photo, cute. 1/450 divided by 6 gives 1/75. Hmm, British OO? There's a restaurant in Des Plaines (NW suburban Chicago), called the Choo-Choo, that servers it's burgers from baskets delivered by a Lionel set running in a loop. Could be a fun diorama.
| TBA wrote: | I may have mentioned it elsewhere here before, but a 1:5 or 1:6 scale operating replica of John Allen's Gorre and Daphetid* would be fun...once steam locos and switches are available in T.
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Which GD?. I've already started sketching a version of the first GD in XTrkCAD. I'm figuring to do it at 1/3 the size of the original. The tightest radii were 14" in HO. 120mm is one third of that. As the original DG was very compact, scaling it up in size would let the scenery stretch out some. Doing similar scale ups has long been a practice in N. Many of John Allen's techniques would seem naturals for T. The stone bridge was supposed to have been just painted cardboard. I've done 1/4 N scale mockups of things like trestles by printing bents on clear plastic. Something like that might work for the trestle and straining truss bridge. Or maybe just etches of the bents, trusses and decks. I've always wanted to do a reproduction of the first GD in a smaller scale.
When is the flex coming???!!!
| TBA wrote: | Modules have been discussed...how about modules built to scale standards representing HO O or G guages respectively? In other words the module length and width and leg length would be proportional to each scale represented. You could set the connected modules up on a table for exhibition...along with appropriately scaled spectators standing about.
Once I do get a set I do want to explore the "model of a model" concept.
Somehow I can see this type of thing being popular with T.
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As one of the folks speaking for modules -- modules will be a subset of what is clearly a minority scale. But my vote is to not get too complicated or whimsical. A 1/3 scale model of a NTrak layout might be a clever idea, but a spec for T-Trak using T gauge is a lot more practical.
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rmyers
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| TBA wrote: | I may have mentioned it elsewhere here before, but a 1:5 or 1:6 scale operating replica of John Allen's Gorre and Daphetid*
*Legendary HO scale model RR, for those not familiar with the name.
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For those not familiar: http://www.gdlines.com/
And as an aside. Northeastern offered a N scale reproduction of the GD engine house. Maybe they still have the artwork. Maybe they'd make it in T.
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TBA
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Which GD? Good question!
For some reason, when I think of the GD I always think of the last version. 
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I just sent a note to the GD lines site. I found one of my own photos on the site. This was of course the first I knew of it. 
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oztman
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| Posted: Wed Feb 11, 2009 8:28 am Post subject: |
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Very whimsical. It reminds me of my first Marklin experience - being taken by my grandmother in the late 50s to see the working layout in the window of Searle's toy and hobby shop in Pitt St in Sydney (long since replaced by "Main Street" shops).
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rmyers
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| TBA wrote: | Which GD? Good question!
For some reason, when I think of the GD I always think of the last version. |
I certainly hope you're joking.
The first one I've always considered a good "journeyman's" project in model railroading. A few turnouts, a few structures, those bridges and trestles, and a clear standard to know if you've done a good job - comparison against the original.
The second one might even be a candidate for T if someone was ambitious. Long and narrow, it could be a shelf.
The third!. Let me count the ways. It is too big to be a table top even in T. You'd need to to some major stretching to make aisles and operating positions practical. It was a lifetime layout. How long was JA building it? Sixteen years? And I think the mainline was just completed at the time of his death. And he had an independent income and worked on it as much as he wanted and his health would allow.
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David K Smith
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| rmyers wrote: | | I think the mainline was just completed at the time of his death. |
If I'm not mistaken, I think the last bridge went in months before he died, but the mainline was never completed. I could be wrong...
But I lived and breathed G&D whilst growing up. Other kids had their baseball heros or rock stars on their bedroom walls... I had the G&D. The summer I'd planned to fly out to CA to meet him was the year he died...
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TBA
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Why would this be a huge project? By my rough calculations, the layout would scale to around 4 feet square? I'm not talking about a walk-in layout.
Yes I mentioned it tongue-in-cheek, and would of course not be practical until T trains can run on sharper curves, but I still think it's a fun concept.
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