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DanMacK
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I don't blame you, looks awesome! Can't wait to see more progress
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Toni Babelony
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| Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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Thatīs a really promising looking layout. I wish you much luck converting the Class 103 to diesel railcars. The luck one has with Japanese modelling is that most MUs are the same length, namely 20m.
May I suggest the KIHA 58 series, as these are one of the most common series of DMU in Japan. The KIHA 40 series might do the job as well. I myelf am trying to convert my yet to arrive Class 103 to a DMU as well. Maybe a 181 series express DMU or something like that. Iīll keep the forum updated when I start on it.
Until now, hereīs a useful link full of paper kits of Japanese trains: http://bustetsude.gozaru.jp/pepamo/pj/pepamo-j.html Be sure to code it in [Shift_JIS] or else nothing is readable.
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trainspotter-usa
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 11:36 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Toni
The KIHA 58 it is then I've found plenty of pics of them all I need is some kind of drawing now.
As for that paper models website All I get is a forbidden message when I try to access the drawing pages... 
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Toni Babelony
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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The pictures work fine for me. You have to go to the pictures through links on that website or else it won't work. Hotlinking them won't work either.
P.s. this is the starting page: http://bustetsude.gozaru.jp/pepamo/pepamo.html also coded in [SHIFT_JIS]
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trainspotter-usa
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 12:28 pm Post subject: |
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Ah I see the issue.
It doesn't like google translator for some reason.
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Toni Babelony
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| Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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If you want to look for KIHA 58 models, you can search for the combination of these characters: [キハ５８形] the models you can choose from are then listed after that.
Here's a translation of what you can find at the KIHA 58 class:
[国鉄色x4] = National Railways Colour (JNR)
[ちどりx4] = Chidori Colour (JR East)
[JR九州色x4] = JR Kyushu Colour
[盛岡色x4] = Morioka Colour (JR East, nicknamed 'Red Devil')
[パノラミックウインド車x4] = Panoramic Window Train (Larger window version as the normal cars. Were introduced later: JNR)
[たかやま色x4] = Takayama Colour (JR West)
[東海色x4] = Tokai Colour (JR Central)
[よねしろx4] Yoneshiro Colour (JR East)
[よしの川x4] Yoshi no Kawa Colour (JR Shikoku)
[キロ58] KIRO 58 (1st class coach: JNR)
[ふれあいパル] Fureai Pal (Joyful Train; Special rental train with karaoke equipment and 'tatami' interior: JR West)
Photo of Fureai Pal interior: http://image.blog.livedoor.jp/ochimusha1/imgs/7/a/7ae2d04a.jpg
I hope this helps a bit.
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trainspotter-usa
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Thanks for that Toni. In the end I opted for the KIHA 54. I've downloaded some and we'll see If I can form paper shell around a motored chassis.
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trainspotter-usa
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:29 am Post subject: |
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Right some progress to report on the layout proper.
Not much to look at yet. But the basic contours are down. Built up from expanded polystyrene covered with lightweight spackling and then painted with Woodland scenics earth undercoat.
Not much else to say really other than it's going to take more than 40 trees to cover that hillside!  
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michael
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:01 am Post subject: |
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Hey Ian - any reason you cant litter the foreground with the 40 proper trees and then fake the rest?
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Chris333
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:41 am Post subject: |
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Are the dimensions still 4'x14"?
looks pretty good. One trick with trees to model the "woods" Is to put a few detailed trees up front with trunks then fill the area behind with just tree tops. In T they could be made from cotton balls.
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TBA
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:13 am Post subject: |
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I've seen scenery books for larger model railroad scales detailing ideas for making "suggested" forested areas. I think your technique may depend on angle of view and distance from viewer.
With the larger scales (resulting in a much longer distance from the viewer) you can get away with just the treetops made from a batting material running the whole forested area behind a line of more detailed trees. However, I wonder how well this may work if you're a foot above it looking straight down?
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Toni Babelony
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 11:07 am Post subject: |
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| trainspotter-usa wrote: | | Thanks for that Toni. In the end I opted for the KIHA 54. I've downloaded some and we'll see If I can form paper shell around a motored chassis. |
Ah, the KIHA 54. These can only be found on the JR Shikoku and JR Hokkaido lines. It was a relatively cheap alternative to replace the ageing KIHA 22 and KIHA 40 series around 1986. This was one of the last series bought by JNR. Soon afterwards JNR was dissolved in the now existing six JR companies.
Here are the explanations of the four versions:
[0番台x1] = 0 type (JR Shikoku)
[500番台x1] = 500 type (JR Hokkaido)
[急行用] = Express livery (JR Hokkaido)
[花咲線用] = Hanasaki Line Livery (JR Hokkaido)
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trainspotter-usa
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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Forestry news.
I have been experimenting with Toothpicks and Woodland Scenics clump foliage.
Last night I did 15 trees in 10 minutes all clumped together they look OK
Ian
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AndyA
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| Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:30 am Post subject: |
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Ian, the Sakura on your blog are wonderful (can't post on the blog, because it says I already have an account but won't give me the password).
I may be tempted to have a go myself, perhaps some autumn Ginkgo.
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