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If Mr. Hirai was reading this post and poll right now, what do you want KK-Eishindo to really get in gear and actually produce and release to the public?
Hankyu 9000/Steam Engine/Mountain Train/Other Trains
33%
 33%  [ 5 ]
Switches/Points/WhateverTheyAreReferredToInYourCountry and flexi-track
46%
 46%  [ 7 ]
1/32 Garden Railway stuff
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
3rd Generation Mech/PWM/New Tech
13%
 13%  [ 2 ]
Something else (if so, mention below)
6%
 6%  [ 1 ]
Total Votes : 15

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DJdeTrainman



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:56 pm    Post subject: What Do We Want? Reply with quote

Just out of curiosuty, I thought I should post this and see what happens...
Razz
...Personally, I' may officially vote later, but I wan't them to try and get a deal w/ HIT Entertainment and make Thomas the Tank Engine, but I don't think that many others are into that idea... Embarassed
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darrel



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

more trains british would be nice.
more buildings a station would be great
signals would be nice as well
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, signals would be nice. So would working catanery Rolling Eyes

Only joking about the catanery - they couldn't make it work, could they? It's hard enough in Z!
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TBA



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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From what I've read here, reliable couplers would be appreciated. Smile

I'd love to see a mechanism that would allow for significantly tighter radii.

Once switches are in production, freight cars (both four and two axle) would be cool.

Lastly, would Code 20 rail be practical? Finer track would look great.

Beyond that, I'm just tickled "T" is available at all.

I'd love to know what surprises they have in store.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TBA wrote:
Lastly, would Code 20 rail be practical? Finer track would look great.


If it was practical to make, Code 15 would work. I've tried it, and it's fine (flanges are about .010 deep). But mass-production of track with rail that size would be a bear. About the only way it could be pulled off is to make flat wire about .010 x .040 and bury .025 in slots or something. But then the question comes, what about switches (turnouts/points)...
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to see a small bo bo diesel loco or even a mid size co co, that could run on its own power like larger scales (perhaps the worm drive system) to haul 4 wheel goods & other wagons. (& that i could build victorian bodies for, preferably t classes) mmmmmmmmmm, Rolling Eyes Very Happy Daydreaming away here. Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I want could be summed up in one word. Freight!!

Nice dirty, well used locomotive much like what Paul previously described hauling a loooooooooooooooooooongg freight or a nice mixed freight on a branch line!!

YUUUMMMMMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oztman wrote:
Yes, signals would be nice. So would working catanery Rolling Eyes

Only joking about the catanery - they couldn't make it work, could they? It's hard enough in Z!


I'm sure it could be done - but cleaning the track is hard enough with just the catenary masts in place (especially on double track). Catenary wire itself would make the task quite difficult - and it would be subject to damage itself. I won't even think about re-railing and coupling trains under wires. Rolling Eyes

Daydreaming is nice, but cold hard facts have a way of interfering with that enjoyment at times. Wink
Realistically, Eishindo are going to be flat out just catering for their own Japanese market, let alone the whims of other markets. So far we know they are going to do the German ICE train. At this stage, who knows what else they'll try? They are certainly aware of the interests from other countries and this seemed to be part of the reason for developing the self-contained mechanisms of second generation and beyond. It allows modellers to adapt the mechanisms to their favourite trains.

Locomotive hauled trains, steam, diesel and electric would also interest me. Better rolling wheels are probably going to be needed for this. Powered freight and passenger cars may be needed though.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i want to see steam locos and points to be developed so we could make

steam era and point to point layouts


Id also like to see an introductory flying scotsman and coaches for the brits! Wink
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now, as a Brit I wouldn't be interested in the Flying Scotsman.
I want some trams.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definitely turnouts and flex. I can't imagine going significantly further without that. Flex even more than turnouts, as worst come to worst I can try handlaying, but without the rail I can go nowhere.

Also and just as important - a better mechanism and engineering of the equipment. It's hard to see exactly where operational problems are with the trains so darn small, and impossible to run if not fully assembled but --
    More tractive effort or less drag is needed, so both trucks driven on power cars is a necessary first step.
    Mechanism that allow trucks to be free swinging, and rock in both front to back and side to side planes, so that the trains stay on the track.
    Lower rolling resistance more accurate wheel location trucks, needle point axle in cups, rather than stamped points in axle end sockets, so that an engine can pull some cars.

A lot of this is supposed to be addressed in upcoming models. I'll wait and see.

Control systems that allow the trains to run at reasonable speeds are needed too. This doesn't necessarily have to come from Eishindo, but even in pictures of PWM demos, you can see the current equipment lurch and stutter because of mechanism limitations. I'd sure like these to run at least as slowly, if not slower, than my N scale in actual speed.

There's a lot of creativity here. If we get the basic needs, I can see folks here bashing shells, freight cars, etc.. But no good mechanism equals not much reason to try.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Points. Just points will do for me.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:56 pm    Post subject: What is needed in "T guage" Reply with quote

rmyers wrote:
Definitely turnouts and flex. I can't imagine going significantly further without that. Flex even more than turnouts, as worst come to worst I can try handlaying, but without the rail I can go nowhere.

Also and just as important - a better mechanism and engineering of the equipment. It's hard to see exactly where operational problems are with the trains so darn small, and impossible to run if not fully assembled but --
    More tractive effort or less drag is needed, so both trucks driven on power cars is a necessary first step.
    Mechanism that allow trucks to be free swinging, and rock in both front to back and side to side planes, so that the trains stay on the track.
    Lower rolling resistance more accurate wheel location trucks, needle point axle in cups, rather than stamped points in axle end sockets, so that an engine can pull some cars.

A lot of this is supposed to be addressed in upcoming models. I'll wait and see.

Control systems that allow the trains to run at reasonable speeds are needed too. This doesn't necessarily have to come from Eishindo, but even in pictures of PWM demos, you can see the current equipment lurch and stutter because of mechanism limitations. I'd sure like these to run at least as slowly, if not slower, than my N scale in actual speed.

There's a lot of creativity here. If we get the basic needs, I can see folks here bashing shells, freight cars, etc.. But no good mechanism equals not much reason to try.

Bob
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

victorian t gauge wrote:
I would like to see a small bo bo diesel loco or even a mid size co co, that could run on its own power like larger scales (perhaps the worm drive system) to haul 4 wheel goods & other wagons. (& that i could build victorian bodies for, preferably t classes) mmmmmmmmmm, Rolling Eyes Very Happy Daydreaming away here. Wink


Couldn't be done, could it ?

Took Z thirty years to get a hood unit where the motor was in the hood.

Could the Marklin option be used, as on the 88690 and 8864, ie, cramming the motor into the cab?

Ben
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If one was exceptionally skilled*, I think it would be feasible. I drew up an RS3 at 1:450, and the present 4 mm diameter motor is just a couple of hairs to big. But there are 3.5 mm diameter pager motors to be had, and I could envision two of these under the hood, back to back, one powering each truck through a fairly conventional tower/worm/worm gear arrangement. The rest of the loco would have to be solid tungsten...

*one would either need to be able to make their own ultra-fine worms and gears, or get lucky enough to find a supplier of same. Both options I think are extremely rare.
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