Talking T Gauge The Original Forum Dedicated to the World's Smallest Model Railroad Scale    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Mountain Train Goto page 1, 2  Next          Talking T Gauge Forum Index -> T Gauge Products View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message B 67 Joined: 23 Sep 2008 Posts: 277 Location: Stratford, Australia Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:57 am    Post subject: Mountain Train A look at KK Eishindo's website reveals yet another new item. http://www.kk-eishindo.co.jp/doitsu2009toy.html _________________ Darren, Stratford, Australia. Back to top Jes Joined: 14 Nov 2008 Posts: 27 Location: The Netherlands Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:21 am    Post subject: Wow, those guys are really constantly developing new products! Looks like a nice project, though by the looks of the prototype, it may take a long time before the cable car will be available to us. _________________ Some thoughts on T Back to top TBA Joined: 08 Sep 2008 Posts: 120 Location: Massachusetts Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 11:39 am    Post subject: Looks to me like a standard T car with new artwork glued to the body? A funnicular/cog railway car is another interesting idea for T.... _________________ Brian Austin Back to top David K Smith Chief Cook and Bottle Washer Joined: 03 Sep 2008 Posts: 435 Location: New Jersey, USA Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:19 pm    Post subject: What an extraordinarily clever way to exploit the magnetic wheel effect! The car may have printed artwork on the sides, but someone also angled the ends. It also looks slightly shorter than a standard car (anyone willing to count ties?). But it's hard to tell with that photo. _________________ —David http://www.t-gauge.net/ http://1-450.blogspot.com/ Last edited by David K Smith on Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:04 pm; edited 1 time in total Back to top B 67 Joined: 23 Sep 2008 Posts: 277 Location: Stratford, Australia Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:43 pm    Post subject: I have since been sent other photos and have been kindly offered a demo Mountain Train. All going well, I'll have my order early next month. You can expect photos shortly thereafter. This model was demonstrated at the 2009 Nurnberg Toy Fair. Another photo shows that the reversing sensors were provided at each end of the track. An ideal use for them as these kinds of trains generally did just run up and down a straight length of track. Albeit, rather slowly. Not sure if the prototype for this one is a rack or funicular. The photo I have looks like the track is inclined at about 30° from horizontal. Not a bad effort for traction only - even if it is magnetic. _________________ Darren, Stratford, Australia. Back to top B 67 Joined: 23 Sep 2008 Posts: 277 Location: Stratford, Australia Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:10 pm    Post subject: TBA wrote: Looks to me like a standard T car with new artwork glued to the body? A funnicular/cog railway car is another interesting idea for T.... I'm thinking it looks shorter than the existing cars. Also the ends appear not to be at right angles to the rails. It probably has the 2nd generation mechanism for lower speeds too. _________________ Darren, Stratford, Australia. Back to top David K Smith Chief Cook and Bottle Washer Joined: 03 Sep 2008 Posts: 435 Location: New Jersey, USA Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 4:06 pm    Post subject: B 67 wrote: The photo I have looks like the track is inclined at about 30° from horizontal. :shock: Not a bad effort for traction only - even if it is magnetic. There's a YouTube video showing a train running on what appears to be a 45-degree incline (or possibly even greater)-- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoEhR02uhJc _________________ —David http://www.t-gauge.net/ http://1-450.blogspot.com/ Back to top B 67 Joined: 23 Sep 2008 Posts: 277 Location: Stratford, Australia Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 10:42 pm    Post subject: David K Smith wrote: B 67 wrote: The photo I have looks like the track is inclined at about 30° from horizontal. Not a bad effort for traction only - even if it is magnetic. There's a YouTube video showing a train running on what appears to be a 45-degree incline (or possibly even greater)-- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoEhR02uhJc Yes, it appears to be 45°. But I think it is actually less. Hard to be sure from that angle. That said, I don't doubt it would still work at 45°. We know they can run at 180° too. I haven't tried 90°. Actually, my trains only appear to have the actual driving wheels magnetised, so my ones won't run upside down. But those of you in the northern hemisphere would tell me that they already do. _________________ Darren, Stratford, Australia. Back to top B 67 Joined: 23 Sep 2008 Posts: 277 Location: Stratford, Australia Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 1:40 pm    Post subject: Just noticed this video of the Mountain Train. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4l7KSOq2OQ Unlike the real ones, it runs much faster downhill than up. The video is linked to the page in the first post of this thread - but it wasn't there at that time. _________________ Darren, Stratford, Australia. Back to top David K Smith Chief Cook and Bottle Washer Joined: 03 Sep 2008 Posts: 435 Location: New Jersey, USA Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:13 pm    Post subject: Passengers on the downward trip will be advised to take dramamine... But seriously... that problem is easily fixed with a few strategically-placed diodes between the controller and the track. _________________ —David http://www.t-gauge.net/ http://1-450.blogspot.com/ Back to top zomer Joined: 03 Nov 2008 Posts: 124 Location: Victoria, Australia Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:33 am    Post subject: Eishindo never ceases to amaze me!! Shame we dont have something like this in Australia!! Are there any mountain trains modelled in any other scales?? _________________ Victorian T Gauge Blog http://www.victorian-tgauge.blogspot.com/ Back to top oztman Joined: 14 Jan 2009 Posts: 34 Location: Sydney, Australia Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:35 am    Post subject: Bemo make rack railways in HO, and the train actually uses the rack (I was tempted, for a while). Unlike the real rack railways you can't have sharp curves. Another European manufacturer makes a (suspended) cable car, but I've forgotten which maker it is. _________________ Gary Z scale, but very curious about T - and who knows? Back to top B 67 Joined: 23 Sep 2008 Posts: 277 Location: Stratford, Australia Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 7:29 am    Post subject: zomer wrote: Eishindo never ceases to amaze me!! Shame we dont have something like this in Australia!! Are there any mountain trains modelled in any other scales?? And I've been further amazed today with the arrival of the mountain train. It would appear that I may have the actual one run at Nuremberg. It is, as suspected, a paper (photo paper) body stuck over the plastic one. But wait, there's more. Here's the mech - yes, it's a second generation mechanism with the extra reduction gear. I was looking forward to testing this out - but unfortunately I discovered a small problem (T gauge can't generate BIG problems, surely?). One of the tension springs was not attached to the hook on the bogie - I soon found out that the hook was missing. As a result, the car is a bit erratic. But it does run. I am hopeful Eishindo can send me another mech in time for the Sandown exhibition. I may be brave and try to solder the spring to the bogie - but if I stuff it up, I won't have a working mountain train for the exhibition. What a dilemma. [edit]Another has been sent already, so it should be here in time for Sandown. Whew! Here's a couple of close-ups of the mechanism. Unlike the first mech, these don't need the bodies on to work. Totally self-contained. Just what the scratchbuilder's among us need. And so, if the mechanism is the shorter second generation one, then that clear plastic body inside the paper one can't be a type 103, can it? Of course not. And as the paper body had come apart at one end, I naturally had to remove it to fix it. And what did I find inside? A Hankyu 9000 body. Unpainted of course, but still looks nice and gives an idea what to look forward to. Not easy to photograph and see the detail though. By the way, i was able to test the operation of the train and, despite the erratic running at times and frequent push-starts, it managed to run at much the same speed up and down grade. Not like in the video. It can climb impossible slopes. It would not go up a 90° degree slope, but it would come down one - and still stopped at the sensor. As for mountain railways in Australia - We do have some. Both rack and funicular. One at Katoomba is said to be the world's steepest. There is also SkiTube at Perisher Blue Ski Resort(which could be the the worlds widest passenger train) and as a complete contrast, the steam ABT Wilderness Railway in Tasmania. _________________ Darren, Stratford, Australia. Last edited by B 67 on Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:06 am; edited 1 time in total Back to top Mikkatrain Joined: 25 Feb 2009 Posts: 14 Location: Pearcedale VIC OZ Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:55 am    Post subject: oh i so so so wanna go _________________ i am so smart S-M-R-T i mean S-M-A-R-T Back to top Mikkatrain Joined: 25 Feb 2009 Posts: 14 Location: Pearcedale VIC OZ Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 9:56 am    Post subject: tell KK ENSIDO TO SEND YOU A STEAM LOCO wehen its planned _________________ i am so smart S-M-R-T i mean S-M-A-R-T Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         Talking T Gauge Forum Index -> T Gauge Products All times are GMT Goto page 1, 2  Next Page 1 of 2   Jump to: Select a forum General Forum----------------Welcome!Trading Post Modeling Forum----------------Tips, Tricks and AssistanceT Gauge ProductsModeling in TLayout ShowcaseModular Frame of MindNarrow Gauge  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Powered by phpBB © phpBB Group. 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