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trainspotter-usa
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| B 67 wrote: | Looks like the lighthouse is on an iceberg in the photo. But I'm sure that won't last long.
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If the lighthouse is going to be "iconic" (not my words) then I have to make a bloody good job of the island its on...
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trainspotter-usa
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:19 pm Post subject: Here's my problem |
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Here's a view of the other end of the layout.
Compare it to the other end.
Nothing going on at this end. Just the train diving into a tunnel.
Even in 3' length of the layout, visually it is out of balance. I have to have something at this end. Some kind of Shrine or Japanese castle would be best. A forest just isn't going to cut it.
A 1:450 scale shrine! That's going to be fun..
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DJdeTrainman
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| Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:36 pm Post subject: |
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Man, Ian, I can't believe how quick your layout is coming along! 
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Now I'm getting nervous. At some point in the very near future I'm going to have to bite the bullet and fix the track in place. Once the track is fixed in place by default so do the bridges. But should I fix the bridges in place and add the water around them or should I do the water and then add the bridges afterwards...
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victorian t gauge
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| Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:35 am Post subject: |
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hehe, i know that nervous feeling at a point of construction in the layout, where potentially much work can get damaged. all i do is just kick back & think about it. have a break doing something different then come back and think some more.
Im also thinking that the bridges should go in first, water around them. i could be wrong, but having not done that before, i recon i would do it that way. |
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David K Smith
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Bridges first, then water. Done that way about 98% of the time. The reverse--water, then bridge--means the bridge piers might need to change size to accommodate the water thickness. Also, if the water is the slightest bit uneven, gaps will be left under the bidge piers.
One suggestion for the water--you may want to tone down the blue. Refer to some photos of real water for ideas on color.
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Trouble is with the sea it's colour is affected by the sky. On grey cloudy days the sea can be a horrilbe greeny gray. On days with no cloud it's blueness can know no bounds. That blue I've used is OK for deeper parts of the sea but I do need to lighten it up as it gets nearer the shore. The PVA I'm placing over the top should affect it too...
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trainspotter-usa
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OK time for some more dull progress pictures from Gonou.
Atop this hill in the clearing at the back will be the Shinto Shrine
I'm thinking that I might just model a petrol station in that bare area in front on the coast there.
I was thinking about a car park with a causeway out to the lighthouse but now I'm not so sure. Mind you this stuff is so small I've easily got room for both...
Finally I think this is a view that will work quite well with the river disapperaing around the corner just beyond the bridges
Any comments observations greatly received
By the way all the trees are just stuck in place and not fixed so I don't mind if anyone suggests moving a clump of trees...
ian
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Torii gate looks great up there, i think the shrine will make perfect use of that area up there. has the water had some pva? its looking like its starting to have some tone. also curious as to the rail at the rear, is it going to be shown or kept hidden? i dont think i have seen the rail at rear.
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Oh yes Ian. Most "dull" indeed. Especially if "dull" is taken to stand for Delightful Ultra Little Landscape.
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| victorian t gauge wrote: | Torii gate looks great up there, i think the shrine will make perfect use of that area up there. has the water had some pva? its looking like its starting to have some tone. also curious as to the rail at the rear, is it going to be shown or kept hidden? i dont think i have seen the rail at rear.
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I still can't help feeling that the main Torii gate is too big. But then again this is something that is totally new to me so what do I know? 10 meters is not an unreasonable height for one when you consider that the tallest is over 20M high
The water has had some PVA but a test area where you can't see 
The track at the rear will be hidden by a backscene. Hopefully some points will come along soon and I can have a loop at the rear to store a second train for seamless changing of trains
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| Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2009 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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| trainspotter-usa wrote: | | victorian t gauge wrote: | | Torii gate looks great up there, i think the shrine will make perfect use of that area up there. |
I still can't help feeling that the main Torii gate is too big. But then again this is something that is totally new to me so what do I know? 10 meters is not an unreasonable height for one when you consider that the tallest is over 20M high. |
Perfectly understandable. If you're not used to a culture, it's hard to judge what looks right. As the shrine acquires more details, I think things will begin to look better. People and other more familiar items will help the viewer establish the context for what they're viewing. After all, how tall is a tree? About that tall.
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DJdeTrainman
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What do you mean dull pictures? Those look FANTASTIC, especially compared to mine... 
...I have a bad camers AND bad photography skills... 
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