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DanMacK
Joined: 04 Sep 2008 Posts: 127 Location: London, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:24 pm Post subject: Thoughts on track planning for T |
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I was thinking of how an HO scale layout would scale out in T gauge, and given clearances and such, figured that 3" would be a good compromise. That way things aren't crammed, there's lots of room for scenery and curves can be broader.
Thoughts? |
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Skibbe
Joined: 05 Sep 2008 Posts: 11
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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3" for what exactly?
I took Mike Danneman's plan for his brother's MRL layout in N scale (Model Railroader, August 2003?), and just divided it by 3. Nice little L shaped layout, and in T the roughly 6'x12' becomes a nice 2'x4'. Minimum radius is 18" on the N scale plan, making it 6" radius for T... which is already larger than the Eishindo snap track.
I traced it out on Plywood and cut it out. Think it might work out for a first attempt. _________________ Mike Skibbe |
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DanMacK
Joined: 04 Sep 2008 Posts: 127 Location: London, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 4:22 pm Post subject: |
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Whoops. I meant for a plan that has rulings of 12", reduce them to 3" for T, as MR recommends 4.5" for Z. Although your calculation of 4" works out as well, and allows for broader curves.
Can't wait to see your progress |
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pray59
Joined: 05 Sep 2008 Posts: 88 Location: Fremont, CA
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 5:10 pm Post subject: |
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I hope we see turnouts soon. Turnouts and flextrack are the only showstoppers for me. With that, I can build a layout.
I was looking at possible ballast solutions, and came across some peppered light grey silica sand at Michaels. It really looks fine enough in person, and the color was somewhat acceptable, but I did not purchase any yet, because I was originally thinking I would crush some Arizona N Scale ballast.
Other than turnouts, handlaid track sounds easy enough. _________________ -Robert Ray |
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Skibbe
Joined: 05 Sep 2008 Posts: 11
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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DanMacK wrote: | Whoops. I meant for a plan that has rulings of 12", reduce them to 3" for T, as MR recommends 4.5" for Z. Although your calculation of 4" works out as well, and allows for broader curves.
Can't wait to see your progress |
Ah, gotcha now! My only thought process was N scale is 9mm gauge, and now we're at 3mm gauge, so it's 1/3. I know this will spark comments about the gauge not really being 3mm, but I had to start somewhere just to get a handle on size and proportions. _________________ Mike Skibbe |
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David K Smith Chief Cook and Bottle Washer
Joined: 03 Sep 2008 Posts: 435 Location: New Jersey, USA
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Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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Skibbe wrote: |
I know this will spark comments about the gauge not really being 3mm... |
Naw, really? Actually, I think prior discussions had more or less settled this. Your point that the average between track and wheel gauge was appropriate. Anyway, considering the width of the wheels, the gauge can vary enormously and the trains will still run. (At the same time, turnouts will be a real challenge given that the distance between inner flange faces is only 2.3 mm. But that's another whole topic for another time...)
Actually, I figured at some point the "gauge vs. scale" topic would emerge, along with the "1:450 vs. 1:480" discussion... _________________ —David
http://www.t-gauge.net/
http://1-450.blogspot.com/ |
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billhko
Joined: 15 Sep 2008 Posts: 1 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:16 am Post subject: |
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For a fast and dirty solution to turnouts for T scale would be a single point turnout. These can be seen on some Japanese narrow gauge web sites.
They are also called something like Kick turnouts because the single turnout blade would be kicked over during operation. They were so rudimentary that they don't even have a throw bar.
I know that it won't look right but it could work until you get your fingers shrunk small enough to build some scale T scale turnouts.
Bill
El toro, CA |
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rmyers
Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Posts: 73 Location: Evanston, IL USA
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Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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I think a little larger than 1:4 for HO and a little smaller than 1:2 for N.
The T Gauge radii are large in scale for sectional track -- apparently because of the 'stiffness' of the mechanisms. 120mm is the smaller radius, which is a radius of curvature of between 30 and 35 degrees. Most scales tight normal is a curvature of 45 degrees -- at least in US practice.
So 18" being normal tight radius sectional for HO gives us 18 * 25.4 / 120 = 3.81
And 249mm (Kato tight normal N scale) / 120 = 2.08 |
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TBA
Joined: 08 Sep 2008 Posts: 120 Location: Massachusetts
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Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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Stub turnouts could also work, provided the rail is springy enough. Old-fashioned, but simple!
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