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David K Smith
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:50 pm    Post subject: American Passenger Cars Reply with quote

I hope that Robert Ray (well-known in the Z Gauge world for his great laser kits) will join us. He's already put his laser to work making some great-looking American passenger cars. Have a look:

http://www.trainboard.com/grapevine/showthread.php?t=100632
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can't wait to see what else Robert comes out with. RDC's and doodlebugs seem to be a logical step forward for T gauge. Given the trucks are approximately a 6' wheelbase, how hard would it be to splice another set of wheels on to get a 3 axle truck for an E unit?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 1:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DanMacK wrote:
Given the trucks are approximately a 6' wheelbase, how hard would it be to splice another set of wheels on to get a 3 axle truck for an E unit?


Probably impossible. The space between the two wheels is completely filled by a solid block of plastic, which holds the sideframes together.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm, ot may be easier to add a dummy axle, possibly via styrene then (or just rig up a new sideframe via styrene with an idler or dummy axle) Bear in mind this is just from looking at the pictures and not having seen the actual product yet. I do believe there's be a way to do something like this though, just a matter of if it's functional or an illusion.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DanMacK wrote:
Hmmm, ot may be easier to add a dummy axle, possibly via styrene then (or just rig up a new sideframe via styrene with an idler or dummy axle) Bear in mind this is just from looking at the pictures and not having seen the actual product yet. I do believe there's be a way to do something like this though, just a matter of if it's functional or an illusion.


I think a dummy third axle is definitely the way to go. Once you see the trucks, you'll see why.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I am dabbling in T. Here is the cars I done so far: a Lounge, Diner, Sleeper, and Coach:















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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice detail shots Robert! Are we going to see a dome and an obs next? Wink

I'd also like to see an RDC or 2 Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DanMacK wrote:


I'd also like to see an RDC or 2 Very Happy


It seems to me like a lot of people would like to see an RDC Wink

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy Very nice indeed.

Robert, I did read through your thread on Trainboard, but there's one thing I'm unclear on.

Did you somehow attach your new bodyshells over the top of the existng Eishindo ones or are they completely separate units? The reason I ask is because I was under the impression that the mechanism for the powered cars was acually part of the body shell, thus making creating new shells that much more tricky.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

learningtobelost wrote:
Robert, I did read through your thread on Trainboard, but there's one thing I'm unclear on.

Did you somehow attach your new bodyshells over the top of the existng Eishindo ones or are they completely separate units? The reason I ask is because I was under the impression that the mechanism for the powered cars was acually part of the body shell, thus making creating new shells that much more tricky.


T Gauge shells are solid clear styrene. Robert sanded the shell smooth, then polished it to get the clear styrene clear again for the windows of his new laser-cut shell, which just wraps over top of the old one.

The mechanism is sort of integrated with the shell; the shell holds the gearbox in place, and it also contains the power strips. It would not be difficult to remove the shell completely, assuming the modeler devised a way of holding the gearbox in position on the chassis, and also hardwired the electrical connections (which is what I plan to do... at some point).
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh crikey, the idea of sanding and polishing those shells is rather terrifying as I've never tried anything of the sort with styrene!

I suppose I ought to have a crack at it, if it all goes wrong I've not lost anything as I was planning on making new body shells anyway.

Thanks for the speedy answer!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

David K Smith wrote:
T Gauge shells are solid clear styrene. Robert sanded the shell smooth, then polished it to get the clear styrene clear again for the windows of his new laser-cut shell, which just wraps over top of the old one.

The mechanism is sort of integrated with the shell; the shell holds the gearbox in place, and it also contains the power strips. It would not be difficult to remove the shell completely, assuming the modeler devised a way of holding the gearbox in position on the chassis, and also hardwired the electrical connections (which is what I plan to do... at some point).


Thanks for clarifying this - seems that this may actually simplify the process of conversion. (a simplified as one might expect for this scale)
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The sanding took all of 30 seconds per side, and on the roof. I used 220 grit to take everything flat, 400, then 600, about 10 seconds per side with each, then Novus 1 and 2 polish, 1 minute each.

The carsides were engraved out of .004" self adhesive acrylic sign plastic, then painted and decaled while on the sheet. The they were peeled and sticked on the cars.

Dan Stirpe came over a couple weeks ago, and we made 4 more body styles, all PRR Budd cars, but have yet to make decals.

Here is the video of them running:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fj_bpCC63_I
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