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Chris333



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:29 pm    Post subject: turnouts? Reply with quote

Found this pic on the net:
http://www.hobbymedia.it/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/treni-scala-t-eishido.jpg

Looks like a mock up of turnouts to see how they work.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, those are handmade jobs. Apparently not even pre-production prototypes.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know there's a pic floating around of a prototype that actually looks like a turnout. the points are all one cast piece. Wonder if they have an ETA on that...
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DanMacK wrote:
I know there's a pic floating around of a prototype that actually looks like a turnout. the points are all one cast piece. Wonder if they have an ETA on that...




I tend to think it's just for show. The points don't even look as if they can move. There needs to be a bare minimum of .5 mm between the point and the stock rail to clear the flanges, probably more like .75--that's 1/4 of the track gauge.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, looking at it, that seems to be the case. The fact that we can have nice long (#8 and #10) turnouts in a modest space is a efiniteldrawing point for T though. It may be easier to do a longer turnout than a shorter one. Hardest part will be the points and making them rigid enough to stand up to operation while looking good.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DanMacK wrote:
Yeah, looking at it, that seems to be the case. The fact that we can have nice long (#8 and #10) turnouts in a modest space is a efiniteldrawing point for T though. It may be easier to do a longer turnout than a shorter one. Hardest part will be the points and making them rigid enough to stand up to operation while looking good.


Actually, it's easier to make a shorter turnout. Reasons are the taper of the points as well as the point of the frog--they get long and slender, a shape that's harder to make than shorter and more blunt.

I have some direct experience, as it happens... I have a T gauge turnout almost completed. Stay tuned for the construction article.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That looks like a rapid-prototype mockup to me. If that was supposed to be functional, it would short out in short order! Very Happy

T-Gauge manufacturers might want to revisit the principles of tinplate-era switches for inspiration. For its American Flyer S-gauge (2-rail) track, AC Gilbert used a simplified design that combined the points and frog into a single pivoting part. I think other manufacturers and gauges had similar designs. The big challenge here, I think, would be keeping the rails electrically isolated. Derailments may be an issue as well.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TBA wrote:
If that was supposed to be functional, it would short out in short order!

Actually not. This is quite similar to the Kato Unitrack 'long' turnout. The points are a one piece stamping and share polarity with the frog. In the normal position the points and frog take the polarity of the curved stock rail which is correct. In the reversed position, the points and frog take the polarity of the straight stock rail. All you need is a wide enough gap that the wheel going through the open point can't contact its stock rail and the open point at the same time. This looks toylike compared to the smaller point spread possible if the points stay at the polarity of the adjacent stock rail and are insulated from the frog, but somehow I don't figure that that was a high priority here.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a look down the T-gauge page on the Gaugemaster (UK) website. There is a video showing prototype points/turnouts in action....

See here: html://www.gaugemaster.com/Tgauge.html

It says they are due 'early 2009'

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just looking on the tgauge.co.uk site and just below a photo of a possible point is this quote

"POINTS/TURNOUTS are expected around April and will initially be manually operated and expected to be of the raised roadbed type. Electrically operated type to follow at a later date. Price yet to be confirmed."

April eh? These guys have been able to get hold of flex track before the rest of the world so perhaps they know something

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But the flex track that they had is not the 1m lengths, it's only 200mm.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried getting meter lengths of *anything* shipped from Japan at any reasonable postage rate, unless you're shipping a pallet-load? I'll settle for 200mm.

just a minor point, the link to gaugemaster is:

http://www.gaugemaster.com/Tgauge.html

note, http rather than html at the front.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But who wants to pay their prices!!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No matter which supplier you look at, they all seem to say the same thing.
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Product on order with supplier...
on all but the basic sets and perhaps the set track. None of the little "goodies" seem to have made it on the market yet, like the boat sets and the grass mats.
Do Eishindo only have on injection machine and just make one product at a time, or do they have a shipping problem?
I realise that it is a new market with a unique problem, but it is frustrating seeing all the fancy bits listed, but not able to get my paws on it!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

David Colley wrote:
No matter which supplier you look at, they all seem to say the same thing.
Quote:
Product on order with supplier...
on all but the basic sets and perhaps the set track. None of the little "goodies" seem to have made it on the market yet, like the boat sets and the grass mats.
Do Eishindo only have on injection machine and just make one product at a time, or do they have a shipping problem?
I realise that it is a new market with a unique problem, but it is frustrating seeing all the fancy bits listed, but not able to get my paws on it!


I'm having little difficulty obtaining almost everything Eishindo has made so far, including the boat sets and all of the new figure sets. I order from a variety of suppliers, but my favorite is PlazaJapan, an eBay store. It's great ordering from them because it's a good bet that the items they list actually exist. They have never failed to deliver anything I order.
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