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Scrayingham Light Railway (was 'Nn18')
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Peter



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 8:03 pm    Post subject: Scrayingham Light Railway (was 'Nn18') Reply with quote

Hello folks, I'm new member of the T Gauge fraternity. I first heard about T gauge on the Gnatterbox forum at Gn15.info. I immediately had visions of using it to model minimum gauge railways in N scale, roughly Nn18.

My first idea was to faithfully model the Sand Hutton Light Railway, with a powered coach car pushing a dummy steam locomotive. Unfortunately it seems that this arrangement would be unsuitable to T scale equipment at the moment (it seems the single truck locomotive likely wouldn't track very well when being shoved).

On to plan B then. I plan on sticking with the idea of surplus WDLR equipment but changing the equipment itself. Instead of single trucked wagons and 0-4-0 Hunslet's. I would instead use WDLR standard gondolas(PDF). Motive power will be a Baldwin built Péchot-Bourdon 0-4-4-0.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome, Peter! Please keep us posted on your ~Nn18 progress. It will be interesting to see other ways T Gauge is leveraged.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter, I can't help much with the T-gauge, but I like your 0-4-4-0 you posted. The Rio Grande had one of the only Fairlies in the US:
http://www.enuii.org/vulcan_foundry/photographs/locomotives/no%20672%20denver%20&%20rio%20grande%20'mountaineer'%201873%20(1).jpg

It was not their best locomotive and was modified to later look like this:
http://www.enuii.org/vulcan_foundry/fairlies.htm

Either way it sounds fun!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi Peter, hi folks,

I'm Andy Anderson, (AndyA) another joiner from the Gn15 list, where 'T' made it onto the list. I, too, am having a look at Nn18, having made a space-model paper railbus/tram to check that I could actually see the stuff. I figured that I'd join so that I can properly follow what a real modeller is going to do. Looking forward to this.

I like the idea of the Pechot-Bourdon, wouldn't have thought of that, so please keep everyone on both fora posted...

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome, all! As you've seen, I've added a new forum for narrow-gaugers. This should help those looking for narrow gauge information to sort it out from the rest. Enjoy!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Andy, wondered when you'd wander over here. Wink As for progress, none so far physically as I'm still waiting on a pair of boxes to wing their way across the Pacific. I have been thinking about layout design. I like the idea of using the automatic reverser on a shelf switcher but then I have yet to actually test the feasibility of this.

Edit, No one has ever accused me of being a real modeler before, I'm a confirmed bodger. I used to say card carrying but I needed to use the card for a support struct in an HO scale barn once. Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy, Peter;
Hello old friends.
Why is it that T gauge is attracting Gn15-ers?
You can't get much more diametrically opposed size wise.
Nice to have you here.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why is it that T gauge is attracting Gn15-ers?


Well, Ian, it's attracting a particular type of Gn15er, I suspect. I'm here personally because I was inspired by your write-up on Gnatterbox and tried to build a small Japanese platform in 'proper' 'T', but couldn't manage it. I'd worked out that T gauge was about Nn18 whilst walking back from the pub quiz (having rejected 1:125 for 15" gauge as being too much to get my head around), came back and found Peter's posting on Gnatterbox as well.

For completeness and in deference to members of this forum who don't want to go near forum.gn15.info, my sole contribution so far is a small paper shell for a Japanese tram/railbus inspired by the Enoden, which I constructed whilst rebuilding a computer. I've modified the artwork and will post the revised item here when I can get the printer drivers working.

At this point, modellers like Yuji Niwa would strip down a mobile phone, rip out the vibro-motor and start building a chassis. As anyone from the Gn15 forum will know, I'm not that type of modeller. So I'm not quite sure where I'm going yet.

The exercise has fed back into what was a Gn15 layout I'm building with my wife, Sue, which is now going to be 16.5mm gauge in 1:32.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, this whole episode is Ian's fault. When he posted about his concept, this picture came to mind.



It's of the Nambu Jyukan Tetsudo private railway, featuring (by 1978) the last 'railbus in Japan' - a four-wheeler that seems still to be preserved although I'm not sure whether the railway still exists. It struck me when I first bought the Yamakei book back in 1978, and the fact that I could still remember where to find it after thirty years must say something. I tried making the platform in T scale, but it defeated me. Whilst dismantling a dead computer, I re-scaled some Enoshima Dentetsu inspired artwork in Gn15, destined for Sue's layout, and mocked up an Nn18 tram. After a couple of days I figured that the original, based on a toy souvenir that we brought back from Enoshima, was just too carictaure-ish, so I modded the artwork a bit This time I was pleased enough that I splashed out on some N-scale people and I still like it, so here it is.



The internal sliding door is front left and rear right, driving position on the other side, benches down the sides. Works better as an 18" prototype. I have no idea what a real 18" gauge Japanese line would look like.

Am I going to try the platform next? Nope, I need to work out the platform height first, which means making running gear, even if it is a mock-up. Each dimension needs working out from scratch. But maybe it'll give other people ideas.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AndyA wrote:
Okay, this whole episode is Ian's fault. When he posted about his concept, this picture came to mind.



I seem to get the blame for a lot of things... Confused

That is a very neat picture though and a super little paper model to boot...

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Nanbu Juukan Railway was discontinued in 2002 and replaced by a bus service. This, however, isn't the last rialbus of Japan though. There are still plenty of these railbusses running around on 3rd Sector railway lines.

3rd Sector railway lines are mostly run by local communities, the city or companies that have these railway lines as a under company. These railways deliver more loss than profit and are thus being closed down or are being kept in service with other activities from the companies as golf courses, hotel and resort buisinesses or otherwise.

Link to Nanbu Juukan Railway Wikipedia
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why is it that T gauge is attracting Gn15-ers?

Howdy Ian, I don't know why T scale attracts gnuts in such quantities. It may be that Gn15ers are just rubber gauges at heart.

Andy, your railbus looks great. Can't wait to see it running. Very Happy

Toni, interesting info. Those railbuses from the link you posted remined me alot of the FCD Railbuses that infamously didn't run on the New Haven.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To pass the time waiting for my purchase from Plaza Japan to arrive I've been setting up my new page for the Nn18 layout over on my website
I've just added an early sketchup of the what I'm thinking about doing.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The track and trains arrived today. Even though I conceptionally knew how small they were actually getting hands on with then proved to be an eye opener. Now to get bodging Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 02, 2008 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I've just added an early sketchup of the what I'm thinking about doing.


EDIT: Could you post more details of the traverser/sector-plate hidden in the trees? I'm really looking forward to seeing this take shape.

With Eishindo's announcement of what is presumably a tram for 2009, I've decided to stop working on my custom underframe for the while. I have plenty of other things to do, including the 1:32 versions of these trams for Sue's Japanese layout, and figuring out a way of adapting Ian's tree manufacture method (specifically the Sakura) to make Autumn Ginkgo and Maple for my eventual diorama.

Good luck, though, as your layout develops.

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